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《冰封王座》道歉与辩解 焦点人物GoStop的回应

2006-10-24 15:52:50 来源:不详 作者:佚名 编辑:gamersky 浏览:loading

  这篇文章分为三个部分,第一页为GoStop在sk-gaming页子上的回帖,第二页为事件非官方无责任简评,第三页为WCG WarCraft III TFT的英文版规则。

  PART.1

  此文系GoStop所写,出处为sk-gaming论坛。

  Hello,这是GoStop。尘归尘,土归土,一切都已尘埃落定,在Soju的laptop上我写下了这篇帖子。
 
  首先,我在言语上伤害了sky。当我暂停游戏的时候,我告诉赛事管理员我不能接受这样的比赛,然而他们只是告诉我要继续打完比赛,因为这场比赛是现场直播的,所以游戏得以继续下去。

  我知道在这个不公平的比赛里自己已经落后了对手,并且不能改变现在的处境。
 
  我没弃权,我承认自己失败了。我亦要求赛事管理员剥夺sky的晋级资格,因为他违反了WCG的规则。因为WCG的赛事管理员让我接受这个比赛结果,若有其他要求可以在赛后提出。*.1
 
  当我这么做了的时候,sky已经去进行下一轮的比赛了,我将此事告知了WCG组委,他们不以为然,觉得sky已经拿到了黄牌。

  因为规则,我接受了这个裁定,之后也就没有更多的动作了。为此,我就散发rep以及观看rep的相关处罚条例询问了很多。我很惊讶,因为这样的行为是一个能够影响比赛进程的作弊,那个作弊的选手仅仅得到了一个黄牌,比赛迟到也不过如此,那么我也要观看对手的rep,因为按照这样的规则我也仅仅会得到一张黄牌而已,就这么简单。

  sky在他的blog上说他仅仅观看了两分钟rep,可那不是真的。Sky在Syc那里看到了相当长的事件,其他的韩国或者别国选手也都有看到,我那时还没意识到这是一个违规。*.2

  之后他将rep拷到了自己的laptop上观看。我怀疑这是两分钟吗,且两分钟的时间已能让他得到我早期战术的足够信息。我傻了,我应该在比赛前就上诉的,应该让sky丧失晋级资格。*.3

  裁判只给了sky一张黄牌并且还说,这于你有利,GoStop,还解释了黄牌的原因。他甚至没有告知我可以对此上诉的。这可在WCG的规则里说的清清楚楚。他们在没有过问这个作弊是否会对选手产生不利的影响的情况下,就判决了多多的事情,我极失望。

  此外,因为我知道sky看了我的rep,我就选了一张别个地图。虽然Twisted Meadows对阵人族的时候会稍有优势,可我必须选择Turtle Rock这张我疏于练习的地图。我想在Echo Isle上布置不同的战术,可已经没有时间与地方让我准备了。
 
  我的想法太天真了,我希望对手表现的风度翩翩些而不是那么自私。*.4

  对我辱骂sky的言辞我道歉,这全是我的错,我在事后的反应太不恰当。对辱没了职业选手的风范我也道歉。

  我和Soju答应要带回WCG金牌的,可事情总是朝着人们所不期望的地方发展。我再次为此道歉。

  注解

  *.1 根据GoStop的意思是,就是这里,他应该在比赛前就上诉以让组委剥夺sky晋级的资格,而不是听从赛事管理员的话在赛后提出,这让他错失了最佳时机。

  *.2 这个违规在下页中有相关解释。

  *.3 GoStop一直在强调对sky的处罚轻了,对他不公平,可这不是公平不公平的问题。你觉得一个杀了100个人的罪犯理所应当的判死刑,而一个杀了1个人的罪犯就得从轻发落?这不是公平,这是纵容犯罪。既然规则这么规定了,那么也就无所谓公平不公平了,这是规则的问题,不是选手的问题。

  *.4 第一种解释:是想让sky不看他的rep获得胜利;第二种解释:sky在比赛中不应该用那种专门克他的战术,要用平常的战术来应对。

PART.2

  附简评:下面的内容在10月24日凌晨做了相应的修改,修改的主要地方在于增添了HelltoHell在论坛上的一则回复,这里要感谢HelltoHell那个极其有价值的回复以及那么多朋友的参与讨论。

  以下就是HelltoHell的回复:

  关于sky被判黄牌的规定在:Penalty for Unfair Play  5) If referee decides that external conditions (Press, Team Leader, Player, Spectator, etc) give unfair advantage to a player, the player may be given a warning or lose by default at the referee's sole discretion. (如果仲裁人员认为客观情形给予了某玩家不公平的好处,则由仲裁人员对该玩家决定给予警告或直接使其失去比赛资格)

  关于比赛录像的规定在:3) During a Match  g) Players may not transmit replay files created during the tournament operation in any shape or form to outside sources. If a player is found to be in violation of this regulation, all of that player’s matches will be declared loss by disqualification。(参赛者不能擅自传播比赛录像,如果被发现这种行为,将被判失去比赛资格)

  我们注意到后一条是出自WCG Player Regulation(WCG选手规则),从逻辑上讲其效用应该高于前一条所出自的WC3 Game Rule(魔兽比赛规则)……(得出什么结论大家自己想吧)

  同样出自WCG Player Regulation中,PENALTY FOR UNFAIR PLAY, 2) Causes for Warning or Disqualification d) Abusive speech and behavior against the tournament staff (referees, etc.) and/or other players (对比赛工作人员或者其他选手的辱骂行为应当得到警告或者剥夺资格)不知道GoStop是不是因为已经打输了比赛所以这个处罚对他无作用而没有任何宣布呢?(注意,竞技比赛中选手虽然输了比赛但严格的说并不代表他退出了比赛,而选手规则是对所有参赛选手作用的)

  论坛原帖:Click to View

  10月24日中午更新:现在看来观看replay是没有问题的,不过应该通过官方认可的途径拿到录像,组委认为sky只是持有了replay,而WCG为了维护转播商以及其他合作伙伴的利益,严格禁止的应该是replay的非法散发,可并没有足够证据来证明sky散发了那个replay,而据sky所述,那个散发的人是Syc。

  那么sky的黄牌可能是因为裁判认定sky从那个replay中得悉了GoStop的战术,取得了一定的优势,所以做出了黄牌的判定。

  而GoStop在赛前没有跳出来喊,可能是因为他已经知道有一条不能散发replay的规则,而他认为sky是那个散发replay的人,这条规则可以让sky失去晋级资格,他当时没说,可能他将这条规则当成了自己最后的王牌,非到不必要的时刻不会拿出来,就像对Soju那场,假若他能赢得比赛,那么他就不需要利用规则来取胜了,毕竟利用规则胜之不武,前面所说必要的时刻就是败局已定的时侯,而他也确实败局已定,可是他不知道,那个散发repaly的人不是sky,至少没有足够的证据来证明sky散发了那个replay。所以裁判不支持他的那条建议。

  下面的为原先帖在论坛上的修改版本:

  当时看了菲律宾那闺女在GotFrag发表的文章,实在是太有感觉了,这是一篇对时间的综述,这篇叙述号称是汲取了发布在一些网页上的现场观众,裁判,直播员等等鸟人的言论精华,可是显然作者对材料进行了大规模野兽派的粗加工,再去看那篇文章时,那闺女已然把对GoStop不利的言辞一笔带过,而对sky的行为以及居心做了大篇幅的匪夷所思的广义的极具探索性的推测。文中引用了sky的blog内容,还说sky的解释纯属借口,没实质性的内容。我就纳闷了,这种问题要怎么实质,现在WCG官方以及Syc都没有给出解释的时候你要sky出个实质,还说GoStop是在不明输赢的情况下忽然退出的,笑,下面具体说:

  至于有些人喊GoStop是中途愤概退出EI地图的,那么GoStop到底是不是成心想退出呢,有两种情况,一是故意退出,一是觉得自己无力挽回颓势。不过这都是废话了,显然那小样是挽回不了颓势,或者我们看到这样的情况感觉sky赢定了,其实原则上不是的,这里我要加一个猜测了,跟那菲律宾的闺女学的,还是引用WCG的规则,Disconnections条目中有一则是:- If the winner can not be decided by analyzing the match replay file, the players  must agree to a match restart or forfeit the match. 意思是:若依比赛录像不能确定获胜方的话,那么选手必须同意重新比赛或者有一名自己认输。下面不用我再多说了吧,这个小GoStop会不会是再想重打一次呢,在这种看天气的比赛里谁也不知道下场结果如何。只是,现场的裁判这次没有像上次一样给他再一次的机会而已。另外,在这个条目中还有一则,是给GoStop的,-  Intentional Disconnection: Upon judgment by the referee, any  offending player will be charged with a loss by forfeit,意思是:若有人故意断开链接,经由裁判确认之后,那名引起断线的选手将被判负。

  下面说sky的那张黄牌,它的大概出处来源于Penalty for Unfair Play里的第五条:If referee decides that external conditions (Press, Team Leader,  Player, Spectator, etc) give unfair advantage to a player, the player may be given a warning or lose by default at the referee's sole discretion. 意思 是:若裁判认为有人给了另外一名选手可能造成比赛不公平的好处,这名选手会被施以警告或者被直接判负。不过带usb key的人是Syc,那么他将录像带了出来并且散发,他有没有受到惩罚呢?

  那个GoStop在场上无故退出,在比赛中辱骂别个选手,这些都是WCG规则允许的?下次WCG我看我们雇一帮菲律宾流莺去好了,赛前让其他选手爽个半死,那么我们的成绩绝对全线飘红,历史性突破,绝对的。若是不允许,那么GoStop又受到了什么惩罚呢?

  这里再贴几个GoStop的小趣闻,其一就是sky提到的CHINA = SPACE?(中国=荒芜之地),另外一件就是从论坛大大bleedkaga那里得知的,某年某月某小韩联赛,GoStop对阵Soju,在建图的时侯Soju用错了地图版本,GoStop明知错了,可他并没有告知现场裁判,当他输了之后,这小子立马跳将了出来,说Soju用了错误的地图版本,称Soju的行为是作弊,最后根据规则,他且飘逸且笑容满面的成为了获胜方。在WC3L中跟suho的那场,GoStop又输了,于是他把上述过程又笑容满面的上演了一遍。

  PART.3

  附WCG WAR3规则英文版:

General
-  Competition Method : 1 vs. 1
-  Group Full league is single round match.
-  The first and second place from each Group Full League will qualify
-  Group Full League qualification process
1) Points (Win: 3 points, Loss: 0 points, No Ties)
2)  In case of tie:
-  Winner of match between the players who tied
- Rematch if tie is not broken by above conditions
 
 -  Single Elimination Tournament: Best 2 out of 3
-  Match Length: Until the winner is determined
-  If there is no battle for a certain amount of time during the match and the winner cannot be decided clearly, the match is restarted at the sole discretion of the referee.
-  Match Winner: The player who completely destroys the opponent or if the opponent surrenders
-  WCG may install third party program and/or join as an observer for tournament operations purposes, such as verifying match results or gathering match data
-  All participants must submit a signed "Participant Agreement" form.
-  Participants born after Oct 18, 1989 must submit a parental consent form signed by a parent or legal guardian.
 
Game Settings
-  Race Selection: Free Choice, Random is allowed. (Players must notify their race selection to the referee before the start of the match. If a player changes the race without referee's permission, the player may be given a warning or lose by default at the referee's sole discretion.)
-  Game Speed: Fastest
-  Maps: Terenas Stand, Twisted Meadow, Turtle Rock, Echo Isle
(* Each map may be modified by the WCG committee. Players will be informed before the tournament of any such modifications)
-  The map selection may be changed prior to the tournament. Players will be informed of any such changes before the tournament.
-  Full League Map Rotation will be notified on Oct 1, 2006 through the WCG website.
-  Single Tournament Maps will be selected at the venue.
-  Single Tournament Map Selection Method
1) Both players select a map of their choice from the official maps.
(Maps used for matches 1 and 2.)
2)  The third match map is drawn by the referee.
3)  If both players select the same map, the second and third match maps are drawn by the referee.
 
-  After the match is over, the players must allow the referee to check the match results and save the replay file. If the replay file is not saved, the player may be given a warning or lose by default at the referee's sole discretion.
    
Tournament Server Settings
-  Lock Teams : Yes
-  Teams Together : No
-  Full shared unit control : No
-  Random races : No
-  Random hero : No
-  Observers : Full Observers
-  Visibility : Default
    
Disconnections
  -  Disconnection: Any disconnection of the connection between match players due to System, Network, PC, and/or Power problems/issues
-  Intentional Disconnection: Upon judgment by the referee, any offending player will be charged with a loss by forfeit
-  When any disconnection occurs: 
  1) If disconnection occurs within 3 minutes of start of match: match restart
2)  If disconnection occurs after 3 minutes of start of match: 
  -  If both players agree to a match restart, the match will be restarted.
- If the players cannot reach an agreement, the winner will be determined by a referee after the analysis of the match replay file.
- If the winner can not be decided by analyzing the match replay file, the players must agree to a match restart or forfeit the match.
   
Intentional Use of Game/Program Bugs: A warning at the minimum or loss by default
  - Intentional use of any program bugs will result in a warning at the minimum or loss by default for the offending player.
   
Penalty for Unfair Play
-  Unfair Play
1) Use of any map hack program
2)  Intentional disconnection
3)  Use of any settings exceeding standard and permitted settings
4) Any unnecessary chatting during the match.
5) If referee decides that external conditions (Press, Team Leader, Player, Spectator, etc) give unfair advantage to a player, the player may be given a warning or lose by default at the referee's sole discretion.
 
- Upon discovery of any player committing any violations regarded as unfair play, that player will be disqualified from the tournament.
- During the course of any match, the operations staff and/or referee may determine other actions to be unfair play at any time.
    
These rules are for the WCG 2006 Grand Final and are subject to modification in the following aspects. 
-  Use of most recent patch/version release of each official game within WCG committee's own discretion.
-  In-game settings and required factors necessitated by use of most recent patch version/release
-  Cheat Protection Program release and/or cheat protection functions

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